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tonight we're going to talk about some

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abduction cases from the South Wales

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area

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last Thursday I went to see Hilary

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Porter a lady from Farnborough has a

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long long history of being abducted and

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she had missing time and lots of things

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happening in our house and when she was

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growing up basically she had a lot of

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happenings when she was from when she

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was a baby

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your mother would put it in the garden

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to be just to play when she was a

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toddler and mother would no longer the

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mother would be switch it off no

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disappeared garden gates bolted lit the

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phone this happened a few times actually

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her older things that happened to her

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and a friend are the NGO called Janet

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when they were teenagers they would see

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in craft in the sky again possible miss

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in time but it all came to her I had my

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thing 70 there was a major incident

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happened when she was on the way back

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from Ireland and that's what I'm

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concentrating on tonight with the with

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the video that I took but she is online

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she's meaning to be different

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researchers over the years she is quite

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bit on YouTube about her with all if we

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interested in the other things happening

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to her under under friends she does go

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into a lot of detail on language

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unfortunately I've got time codes so I

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start the video and about half an hour

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long after that then I'm going to talk a

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little bit more about some of the cases

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relevant to Hilary and then we'll have a

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half an hour break and then I'll resume

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them by talking about some cases we

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should Swansea you a phone network of

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discovered locally and

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a couple of us have been Steve need to

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meet a couple of people so I'll be going

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through those see what the similarities

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are between Hilary's case and local

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other local cases okay hello I'm Emily

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Williams swansey UFO network and I've

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traveled down from Swansea today for me

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to Farnborough to see Hilary Porter

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who's had many experiences over the

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years but today we like to talk to her

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but through experience in 1970 whilst

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travelling through South Wales on the

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way back from a trip to Ireland and more

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recently in 2009 infinitely hello

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everybody Hilary and I'm going to tell

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you all about the journey back from

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Ireland through Wales 1970 early

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September it was in the absolute dead of

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night with coming off the push guard

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ferry at about 115 traveled down to have

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a full of West and then we went

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southeast little roads because in that

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time those days there wasn't bm4 we were

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travelling I've got to about as far as

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we could remember to Swansea area and

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there's no more recall of the journey

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home the next thing we know it's sunrise

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and we're outside Cardiff now we're

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sitting in a garage forecourt and

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there's the sand and everything along

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the river 7 I could see

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weston-super-mare

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this way I can see the breach way way

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out in the distance to go back over to

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England I could see Somerset Levels that

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way nice and I was very very ill feeling

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absolutely dreadful my ex at the time he

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was very angry

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because he's given me the last few

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pounds to buy you know me other than

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everything cuz he knew I'd get migraines

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if I'm not careful if I don't eat

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properly so I had had perfectly good eat

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the evening meal and set me up for the

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night know something had happened I was

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really ill and I knew I'd been abducted

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somehow but I didn't know what he'll

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wear or anything all I know is I've got

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to get back to England so he's really

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angry but then he's looking at the

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dashboard and he says hmm

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he says that's a bit funny he says

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because you've got more petrol in there

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than one would've thought you said

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because you know we've traveled a good

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few miles and said why just get us home

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please so nothing more was said and then

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he we went over the bridge we had to pay

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in stamps to get across the bridge then

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we won't be seen we went to a bank and

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sort themselves out money wise food wise

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everything got home later that day I

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staggered into my bedroom I needed to

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sleep desperately because in those days

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driving in a little mini you know

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sprung anything in those days I found

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when I was getting undressed a

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triangular mark here and it was red

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blood-like sort of suction is that so I

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shouted sir Robert come and have a look

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you know the other look he said well you

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know it was a bit of a rough journey

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across he said maybe you fell against

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the bar you know or something you know

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getting around ship no no I would have

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remembered that so

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that is weird anyway I was so ill I just

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had to get to sleep I slept for a few

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hours while he prepared food and things

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like that it was seven years later when

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the flashbacks and everything started to

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happen and it came hard on the heels of

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another abduction at that very time and

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for whatever reason this was given to me

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this flashback the flashback is that yes

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we are at this beach we are seeing

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people walking up and down on the sand

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it appears to be a Sunday afternoon

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round about three o'clock rather than

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the dead of night and there's these

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aliens out on the beach and a craft

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that's landing I can't really see the

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craft in much detail because I wasn't

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allowed to I suppose it's how they work

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with you and the old mind anyway I go

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across the the coastal road where we are

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on to the beach and there was a tall

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alien that's per six foot maybe more

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with a green overall all in one with a

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box strapped to his chest and they're

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smaller ones but I cannot see any of

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their faces I've never been able to see

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their faces but he does say to me others

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perhaps it's telepathically Aziz well

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that when I move these buttons and

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things on this box that's going to be a

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seismic test done on the beach the

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people are going to get very angry you

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said when they get angry they're gonna

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run after us so we have got to run so

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but you say it's so good to have you

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here that's part of our team would you

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like to be part of our team I said yes I

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would

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so he said right so next thing I know

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he's doing these buttons and things and

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everything and sure enough he says run

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run the people are after us well there's

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like Georgian houses Terrace running

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along and this little garden and another

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bit of gardeners were going up a steep

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hill there's another of houses and he

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said go round there go go down here so

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we're running down the next road at the

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top of the hill

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I've run about seven houses along when

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there's suddenly a big gap and in this

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gap there is a path that goes down in a

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bit you know so far back down to the

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beach road and also it's very overgrown

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with loads of weeds and things you know

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it's never been built on since the war I

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would think anyway the voice says make

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for one of those cars down there well

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you know the car Kao look at what they

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call those little cars cars it there

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were two black ones but it looked like

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that that's the closest I consented they

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were really sort of Roundy's I look like

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a Volkswagen type thing but we rushed

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down and next thing I know I'm going

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into the passenger side of the first car

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come to accept I'm not in a car at all

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I'm in an oval-shaped between eighteen

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twenty foot

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craft and that is the craft inside

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I come to or whatever it is I'm due and

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they've got very long backs on them and

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I noticed that everything in that the

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craft was centrally anchored to the

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floor this table was very large they all

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kind of looked plasticky but I couldn't

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say they were I couldn't say they were

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leather not really sure what material

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they were made the green or one of the

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aliens in yet another green overall

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maybe the same one I was standing right

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next to me and then you've got another

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alien very similar sitting on a stall

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working a console I noticed how

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beautifully fashioned it was with the

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wall of the crafts I thought how

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beautiful that is

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maybe and being an artist and a

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draftsman I asked this bean I said can I

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go and have a look at the console oh yes

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he said that's fine so I got up and I

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walked across and I stood to the one

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side of this other alien being

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I saw the console the console made up of

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section squares and you could see a

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mapping system and you could also see a

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light moving extremely fast across this

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system it was then that I turned and I

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was looking out of the large windows

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here big horseshoe shaped front to it

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and I saw the other pilots in the chat

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piloting the craft again in the green oh

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he had these levers and he was moving

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levers back and forth and also his feet

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with something moving as well but by

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moving we've gone right across the seven

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almost in a matter of moments and I just

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asked you but you were traveling back

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from Ireland yes just before you're

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black you blacked out or whatever and

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and find yourself further on in the

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journey yes how far has he gone when

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swansea I think I'll use the coastal

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roads or something like that so many

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nice what was it on the motorway portal

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one doesn't sleep when you've got no

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suspension or anything yeah yeah in a

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mini there's not much space anemone so

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the next thing you know you were in a

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garage forecourt yes next would be any

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idea where that dawn oh yes it's just

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outside Cardiff just a sec I'm not sure

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exactly where because um you haven't

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been back to trying to retrace your

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I'd like to go when you say it was just

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outside Cardiff was yeah I was sort of

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many many years later

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I began to understand what was happening

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to me yes I always knew I was an

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abductee but I needed answers I needed

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something

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Wael stood out always for me where

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they've taken me what happened to me so

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I researched some of your newspapers

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things like that Margaret Frye kept

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coming up with she studied this and she

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yes

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oh you're contacted Margaret didn't yet

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and she said oh boy do you she said

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that's a hot spot she says that there's

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been many abductions that have taken

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place in that area between swansea and

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cardiff yeah so I said so I do

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appreciate you being open with me in

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telling me I can take it because I just

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want to know the truth that's fine thank

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you

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so with that and also Tony died too late

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police sergeant Jared daun who worked on

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abduction things he too verified had to

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go through quite a grueling a lot of

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tests who liked things and questioning

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and all sorts but I passed every single

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one and he said yeah there's no doubt

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about it you are an abductee so I said

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well you know we're getting that under

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the belt then I could go on then go

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forward so to me I was petrified of

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Wales

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after that actually I mean I love to see

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me and everything about it but I was too

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frightened then in row 9 my friend

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Janet's who had grown up with and

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everything was living in Canary and she

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said oh come on he'll come over and

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spend some time with us you know well as

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of carer as well for many many years

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going anywhere for any length of time I

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was not an option because Sally

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my daughter was severely autistic not

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not a sport just like you see on the

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telly so but we said we would go to

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honestly she had nice little bungalow

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and she had room to put Sally up for

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Kevin I and she had to sort of put you

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up in there in their lounge so she says

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no excuse come on Hill so and she said

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and she knew because there were all our

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abductions her daughter was having

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abductions for a long time

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and she said I want you to talk to my

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daughter because it's you know if you

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can get through this will help her in

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any way I said of course I will Jack

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course I do you know and I thought well

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I've got to put myself second in this

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case and you know get some courage and

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just go so we all traveled to Wales who

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knows one little spot we were all coming

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through a bridge in Cardiff there was a

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I don't know what made this particular

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noise there's only cars but there was

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like an acoustic shock an absolute

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deafening sound suddenly it was

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something sometimes sounds if you look

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duck T there are certain things

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sometimes well maybe it's certain

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frequencies or something that triggers

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something off and my heart pound

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mothers on the way to the finale yeah

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yeah just coming through sort of rounds

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on the m4 under this bridge terrific

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well I was shaking like a leaf and all

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seems okay and then I picked up a bit

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more you know took deep breaths and

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everything and I've got to Janet sit sir

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within three hours just on three hours I

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rang them I said we're here we're at the

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bus stop I'm just off the m4 just coming

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down towards her nicely she said hold on

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the hill I'll be able to get you and she

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did a few minutes later she was in the

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car with her daughter and they we

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followed them into new doc Street and

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they're routing to where she lives you

334
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see which is a new complex everything

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went fine the only problem was her

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daughter had a boyfriend who just didn't

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seem to want to let her speak to me you

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know and that was so sad because I'm

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there for her for that weekend and

340
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trying to overcome an enormous amount

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I felt it aside me to do this anyway we

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did places did things but I just didn't

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feel quite right there was something I

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felt buried down I felt strange feeling

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the whole time I was there I didn't

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think I was imagining it Ken told me I

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was very restless and the nights and I

348
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was twisting and tiling it not not at

349
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all right he said you were you know

350
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something was happening to you mumbling

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in his sleep and I thought I said

352
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alright so we get right through the

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weekend on the

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some day we went to a room to the gawah

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you see the date again it was August 14

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15 16 17 2009 yes Sunday going out in my

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little car

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so we'll got in her car when I was in

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the gamma travelled all the way down we

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had a lovely afternoon except something

361
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was preventing me from being I want just

362
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to be happy and enjoy my friends and

363
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everything but something's wrong and I

364
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could not put my finger I just couldn't

365
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work out well but there we were there

366
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was a beach on the east side of the

367
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gallows beautiful sandy beach it was

368
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lovely and we spent a couple of hours

369
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there and then we traveled back through

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going gradually back to Swansea and

371
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cuz well London's something I mean I do

372
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not see on the on the map yeah might

373
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have some significance I was checking

374
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something out myself I'm finding that

375
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you want to carry with the story yeah we

376
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go to the room to the artists seat and

377
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came jumped out the other stone yes yeah

378
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and he shot down over there pictures of

379
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sheep everywhere absolutely everywhere

380
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and then we got back yeah yeah I would

381
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say it was this one here ops which yeah

382
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yeah you came just across across here to

383
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then making our way back

384
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you know something Santi tea time and

385
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everything and she goes to a

386
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spiritualist Church in the evening

387
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:49,460
things which we learnt with her and I

388
00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:51,260
won't go into that I don't think too

389
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much thinking away that night we went to

390
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:57,440
bathe you know I need to get some good

391
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bit of sleep too

392
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we've got a journey to make the next day

393
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I'm Restless again as I'm told

394
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next morning kids said to me flipping it

395
00:26:16,330 --> 00:26:11,990
go you know you really well even worse

396
00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:16,340
last night I said right I mean wasn't

397
00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:18,230
looking at me and I didn't think

398
00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:20,630
anything was wrong but sit coolly at

399
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:23,630
that second one time I went over to the

400
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bathroom and I such a shock because my

401
00:26:42,610 --> 00:26:40,490
right eye was all swollen all I know is

402
00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:42,620
that I couldn't see through the wretched

403
00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:45,590
thing very well it was all bruised up

404
00:28:06,850 --> 00:26:57,100
now so I go into the bedroom so

405
00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:06,860
look at this oh my god oh my god so I

406
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:16,040
think we're nervous driving under this

407
00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:18,710
bridge and then you're going gradually

408
00:28:37,630 --> 00:28:30,760
back out you won't go back the whales

409
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:37,640
you want to go back the way you know

410
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,770
something I don't know what I've done I

411
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:41,840
haven't done anything to my knowledge in

412
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:47,900
it whatever it is doesn't like me so the

413
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:50,980
night when he was staying with Jan yeah

414
00:28:58,380 --> 00:28:55,130
no recollection at all of any anything

415
00:29:04,390 --> 00:28:58,390
happening apart from the black I know

416
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:07,530
we sat in her guard and we did sky watch

417
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:09,650
hmm

418
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:13,630
Saturday so I was in the back and I

419
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:17,090
drove around place which was pretty

420
00:29:27,310 --> 00:29:23,210
quiet looking out towards visit yeah

421
00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:27,320
come on be that way because she said

422
00:29:34,570 --> 00:29:29,660
sometime she was very aware about all

423
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:34,580
the sightings going on she is very much

424
00:29:39,910 --> 00:29:36,890
like myself she's she knows and she

425
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:39,920
knows all about the animal mutilations

426
00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:43,130
on the gawa and all around because you

427
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:46,280
know this wild sheep and there's cattle

428
00:30:10,260 --> 00:29:55,540
so but that night we didn't really see

429
00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:14,640
so looking at the map come back to 1970

430
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:17,030
okay any idea what they did that would

431
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:18,110
have been yes

432
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:23,390
something about within the first few

433
00:30:31,299 --> 00:30:28,570
days of September yeah that's the 9th

434
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:31,309
September we went like we're newest

435
00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:37,220
about quality coming up kind of yeah

436
00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:40,100
so filled the map up bigger point on

437
00:31:01,049 --> 00:30:42,590
that how far down do you think you would

438
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:04,870
yeah it's Cardiff will be that way on

439
00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:12,260
the old road we were trying to keep the

440
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:20,409
ya know we carried on now we did we

441
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:23,840
carried on coming down yeah these down

442
00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:26,480
these roads is nothing like in 70 that

443
00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:29,000
the m4 was there then as far as portal

444
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:41,990
but yeah we did then if we look at the

445
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:45,830
map from the Cardiff try and find out

446
00:32:13,710 --> 00:32:03,700
never had any regression yeah why else I

447
00:32:28,990 --> 00:32:15,190
dark sand

448
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:29,000
yeah a big beach houses yes the road

449
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:46,040
that came down right so if we hold them

450
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:47,929
have a look at the map of Cardiff

451
00:32:50,350 --> 00:32:49,730
beneath this like you think I would be

452
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:50,360
in this area

453
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:53,630
yes that's possibly Barry or Penelope is

454
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:55,730
a sandy beach yes

455
00:33:22,600 --> 00:32:57,230
so that rules up pin off because they

456
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:22,610
know right we look at Barry area may be

457
00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:26,720
wrong Sully was the road quite close to

458
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:29,590
the beach yes

459
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:31,030
yeah that's all enough to have a look at

460
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:33,490
that oh good you could tell me yeah I'd

461
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:36,490
be so pleased look at Google Maps maybe

462
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:42,310
yes I've tried to go in place yeah just

463
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:44,970
think about 1970 where there's a garage

464
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:48,120
yes early in the morning was it when you

465
00:34:24,889 --> 00:33:57,480
and they just continued to do anything

466
00:34:28,530 --> 00:34:27,570
hey she was lovely lady to talk to she

467
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:28,540
made me lunch as well

468
00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:32,409
and a partner can the many years ago

469
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:34,830
they started a group called beams

470
00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:39,850
British Earth aerial mysteries Society

471
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:43,960
and she runs a help group for abductees

472
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:47,020
and contactees and a very knowledgeable

473
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:51,370
lady on the subject a bit of backgrounds

474
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:54,580
again to her she told me a few stories

475
00:35:01,440 --> 00:34:56,890
and again you can see them online as

476
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:01,450
well one incidence of incident that

477
00:35:09,570 --> 00:35:04,330
happened to her was she had a missing

478
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:09,580
pregnancy it's quite a common occurrence

479
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:11,950
actually with the with abductees that

480
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:15,100
the report being Craig nated and then

481
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:22,140
interbreeding breeding the hybrid race

482
00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:26,940
is one suggestion way why he doing it

483
00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:30,280
she went it is online you can you can

484
00:35:35,610 --> 00:35:32,680
look at she went to the hospital and she

485
00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:35,620
had some hassle with the the nurses and

486
00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:37,420
the doctors and he wouldn't tell her

487
00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:38,780
what was going on

488
00:35:43,230 --> 00:35:41,600
I mean 2003 she was she had something

489
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:43,240
wrong with the telephone and she

490
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:46,690
telephoned BT to get it sorted out and

491
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,410
within minutes a young man arrived she

492
00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:52,880
was outside the funk garden and he was

493
00:35:58,060 --> 00:35:54,440
walking across the road and he said

494
00:35:59,020 --> 00:35:58,070
hello I mean new BT man and she she

495
00:36:01,360 --> 00:35:59,030
thought strange for someone he just

496
00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:01,370
phoned up honey he came into the city no

497
00:36:05,260 --> 00:36:03,260
money he came into the living room door

498
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:05,270
through the living room dawnie he didn't

499
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:09,710
have a degree 180 degree turn where she

500
00:36:13,570 --> 00:36:12,170
had a picture of a flying saucer with a

501
00:36:15,460 --> 00:36:13,580
beam of light coming up from it a

502
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:15,470
painting yeah and he said oh that's a

503
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:18,770
really nice picture are you were

504
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:22,030
interested in UFOs and yeah yeah yeah

505
00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:24,890
anyway you fixed the phone and then

506
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:27,020
rather than going he he started showing

507
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:29,990
her his family pictures humans partner

508
00:36:36,490 --> 00:36:33,920
or wife and a small child it's strange

509
00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:36,500
for some BT engineer to do that and not

510
00:36:39,610 --> 00:36:37,640
only that but they asked him if he

511
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:39,620
wanted to stay for some foods because it

512
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:41,630
was lunchtime he said yeah yeah fine he

513
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:42,890
sat on the wicker chair in the living

514
00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:45,680
room he didn't have any food even mother

515
00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:47,720
bunny food eats noise okay he didn't

516
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:50,540
drink he was just talking to them and he

517
00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:51,680
was at that one when she throws up

518
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:54,680
something not quite strange here she and

519
00:37:01,180 --> 00:36:56,090
I said I think you know we go in there

520
00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:01,190
she he was her son hybrid son he said

521
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:20,890
like come up the good sermon was bit

522
00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:28,610
late set in the camera she's born in the

523
00:38:11,030 --> 00:37:44,270
oh yeah oh he's he's a fascinating guy

524
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:11,040
we were talking about half an hour but

525
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:48,020
no no I asked her that she did she can't

526
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:50,550
you know she but she had a feeling all

527
00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:52,970
day that something wasn't right and

528
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:54,840
initially when I asked if she'd come to

529
00:39:00,350 --> 00:38:57,810
our meeting to give us a talk you know

530
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:00,360
we put it up over she said no I come for

531
00:39:09,370 --> 00:39:04,050
the wheels she's got a genuine fear of

532
00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:09,380
coming to Wilson England as well but I

533
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:12,780
think the the experience that having

534
00:39:17,780 --> 00:39:14,670
done in like in 70 he doesn't send us so

535
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:17,790
much I think I think he's having what

536
00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:19,170
happens at home is bad enough but if

537
00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:20,940
you'd away from home away from your

538
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:28,700
yeah she said she's a definite believer

539
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:30,570
that the abduction phenomenon does

540
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:33,540
follow bloodlines this happens in her

541
00:39:36,850 --> 00:39:34,170
family

542
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he's happened with her friend as well

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she said on the video that is something

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to a friend's daughter I'm trying to get

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in touch with a friend

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she lives in phonetically so she's local

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it should be nice if we could get her

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side of the story another look September

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1970 I'm found anything yet August

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August September thing she says but it's

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very interesting I think what is a fair

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weather there are some other interviews

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online if you another luck Richard he

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halted in interview with in 2009 there's